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    May I vent for a moment?

    Post by snapnhiss on Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:13 pm

    Apologies ahead of time.

    Am I the only one that thinks this is insulting to the people that bought and liked a game?  Is this kind of verbiage necessary to review a game? 

    I won't be buying any more "helper" games. They have become redundant, silly, insulting to the intelligence, nauseating, and characteristic of inferior, cookie cutter games. Enough is enough. These games, it seems to me, are aimed at children.
    Come on, BF and devs, we are adults looking for decent entertainment, not diversionary eye candy aimed at little ones.

    Sorry, but these trends the devs have run crazy with involving:

    1) precious, cute animal helpers is getting absolutely insulting. It's pandering to the "aw, shucks" in all of us, and regrettably and unfortunately ---- to the players of a certain age that loves BF.
    2) And, even more unfortunately, the games are getting disgustingly simple ---- like this one. My 10 year old grandson walked away from it, and said it was for "babies", and I won't support this or any other game this utterly simple. Come on, devs, give us credit for a little bit of intelligence.

    In addition to being a trend, as you politely call it, I believe it is an obnoxious type of pandering. Especially when they show us "cutesy" animals that we can "dress-up" or "improve their habitat". That sort of thing makes me think the devs are laughing down their sleeve at us. I can hear them now ---- "Hey, let's put in a cute little critter right here. We can't come up with a story, but these middle-aged so called gamers will love these critters". Sorry, but that's what I believe. And it's insulting ---- not to mention childish. As a middle-aged gamer myself, I am definitely not looking for cute and simple. Oh, once in while, sure, but game after game?
    (And then I see some of the replies in the forums ---- almost always female, btw ---- simply gushing about the "adorable" or "precious" animals. )

    I have to agree that this game is super simple with an aim toward very young children, or someone who likes pink or purple.

    Those are snippets from four different games, four different developers, all insinuating that only children would enjoy playing them.  I'm 56 and I don't appreciate being told that my taste runs toward the 6 year old age range.

    I'm curious why I'm getting attacked by quite a few BFG forum members when I protest.  He can review to his heart's content but how about *NOT* insulting others while doing so?  I'm not sure why I can't get that suggestion across without his admirers swarming me.  Am I being too sensitive and his reviews really ARE funny?   Huh?

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by orphaned on Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:33 pm

    snapnhiss wrote:Apologies ahead of time.

    Am I the only one that thinks this is insulting to the people that bought and liked a game?  Is this kind of verbiage necessary to review a game? 

    I won't be buying any more "helper" games. They have become redundant, silly, insulting to the intelligence, nauseating, and characteristic of inferior, cookie cutter games. Enough is enough. These games, it seems to me, are aimed at children.
    Come on, BF and devs, we are adults looking for decent entertainment, not diversionary eye candy aimed at little ones.

    Sorry, but these trends the devs have run crazy with involving:

    1) precious, cute animal helpers is getting absolutely insulting. It's pandering to the "aw, shucks" in all of us, and regrettably and unfortunately ---- to the players of a certain age that loves BF.
    2) And, even more unfortunately, the games are getting disgustingly simple ---- like this one. My 10 year old grandson walked away from it, and said it was for "babies", and I won't support this or any other game this utterly simple. Come on, devs, give us credit for a little bit of intelligence.

    In addition to being a trend, as you politely call it, I believe it is an obnoxious type of pandering. Especially when they show us "cutesy" animals that we can "dress-up" or "improve their habitat". That sort of thing makes me think the devs are laughing down their sleeve at us. I can hear them now ---- "Hey, let's put in a cute little critter right here. We can't come up with a story, but these middle-aged so called gamers will love these critters". Sorry, but that's what I believe. And it's insulting ---- not to mention childish. As a middle-aged gamer myself, I am definitely not looking for cute and simple. Oh, once in while, sure, but game after game?
    (And then I see some of the replies in the forums ---- almost always female, btw ---- simply gushing about the "adorable" or "precious" animals. )

    I have to agree that this game is super simple with an aim toward very young children, or someone who likes pink or purple.

    Those are snippets from four different games, four different developers, all insinuating that only children would enjoy playing them.  I'm 56 and I don't appreciate being told that my taste runs toward the 6 year old age range.

    I'm curious why I'm getting attacked by quite a few BFG forum members when I protest.  He can review to his heart's content but how about *NOT* insulting others while doing so?  I'm not sure why I can't get that suggestion across without his admirers swarming me.  Am I being too sensitive and his reviews really ARE funny?   Huh?



    Dear snaphiss -

    The answers are  .......   NO !!!   and , as have not read the reviews >>> probably not .

    Am older than you and LOVE TO PLAY!! 

    the critters are fun and add an extra dimension  to game play .... not to forget mentioning the difficulty in incorporating additional features such as that into games ... 

    I stopped playing where the piranhas are running (ruining) the fish tank now .... with their nasty little entourages yapping and sniping at personal opinions that DARE to differ with the main .....

    still buy the games and now REALLY enjoy them ....

    as the only opinion that I have is mine. 

    the same way I BUY them  ..

    the forums have become a coliseum >>>>  prepare for armed and unnecessary combat !!! 

    I miss when it was fun to be in the forums ... Cry  Cry  Cry 

    but ...

    had it not happened, would be missing out on GGG  and DRAGONS  Happy bounce  Happy bounce  Happy bounce  Happy bounce

    I think I ended up ahead  .... Smile

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by snapnhiss on Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:47 pm

    Yeah, I noticed you haven't been posting.  I used to enjoy your enthusiasm when a new game would hit, it's a loss when happy people no longer want to participate.

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by orphaned on Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:05 pm

    snapnhiss wrote:Yeah, I noticed you haven't been posting.  I used to enjoy your enthusiasm when a new game would hit, it's a loss when happy people no longer want to participate.



    agreed !! Okay 

    and thanks   Half Flower ..

    was so much fun when a new game arrived  Happy bounce  Happy bounce  Happy bounce 

    especially my Bunny Boys (ERS)  who always delighted me and still do not disappoint ...

    there is a solution ..... right here!!!

    we can review and play as it used to be ... as delightful as those delicious games

    did review a few in here ....  one quite recently .... 

    but those dragons have my heart so happy now ... 

    barely leave the Cave anymore except to buy  Evil Grin



    do know one thing ... is safe and lovely here

    that nonsense would NEVER be tolerated at GGG  or allowed to continue  .. Sunny  Sunny  Sunny



    PS:  OOOOOPS !!!!!  sorry ..... snapnhiss  Embarrassed 

    typos make me crazy !!!  Stars 

    but that dang computer is almost unteachable  ..  LOL!! Belly laugh  Belly laugh

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by snapnhiss on Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:13 pm

    Since you're a dragon fan, I'm assuming you've read the Pern novels.  Love, LOVE Pern.  I want to move there and shack up with a bronze rider.

    Anyway!  Rumor has it they're finally going to make a movie, possibly an entire franchise.  I guess with the success of Game of Thrones, this kind of story is hot right now.  And best yet, we have the special effect ability to make the dragons look fantastic.  Yippee!

    ETA:  I should start a new thread so we can dream cast our favorite characters.  I can't wait to see Moreta, she's my favorite.

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by orphaned on Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:21 pm

    snapnhiss wrote:Since you're a dragon fan, I'm assuming you've read the Pern novels.  Love, LOVE Pern.  I want to move there and shack up with a bronze rider.

    Anyway!  Rumor has it they're finally going to make a movie, possibly an entire franchise.  I guess with the success of Game of Thrones, this kind of story is hot right now.  And best yet, we have the special effect ability to make the dragons look fantastic.  Yippee!


    YES !! YES !!! YES !!!! 

    Anne McAffrey  ROCKS !!!  Have read them all  ... again and again and again ..


    Ruth the white dragon  ....

    inbetween  ..... dreaded thread ...  dragon and rider are one  .. Wub  Heart  Heart 

    A MOVIE  !!!!!!!  be still my heart !!!   Happy bounce  Happy bounce  Happy bounce 

    have barely recovered from Dragonheart !!! which somehow shows up a lot ... Snicker 

    THANK YOU !!!!   Half Flower  Half Flower 


    move there and shack up  with a bronze rider  ..      YES  YES YES !!!!!  LOL!!!

    fly me to the moon has a whole NEW meaning now ...... Belly laugh  Snicker 

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by snapnhiss on Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:10 pm

    Aaah, I got banned for a week.  It was the post where I said Cathy Catfish was a nag.   Snicker 

    I'm a bad influence ladies, I hope I don't rub off on any of you.

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by orphaned on Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:20 pm

    snapnhiss wrote:Aaah, I got banned for a week.  It was the post where I said Cathy Catfish was a nag.   Snicker 

    I'm a bad influence ladies, I hope I don't rub off on any of you.



    LOL!!!  ROGLMAO !!!

    that is ALL you said ?????

    my God woman !!!  what restraint !!!

    I have cutscreens of her being "a nag"  .... ahem, giving nags a bad name ...

    truthsayers always welcome ...

    and never saw you being mean .....  ever ..

    thank God that stuff is not in here ...... Sunny

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by genkicoll on Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:33 pm

    snapnhiss wrote:Since you're a dragon fan, I'm assuming you've read the Pern novels.  Love, LOVE Pern.  I want to move there and shack up with a bronze rider.

    Anyway!  Rumor has it they're finally going to make a movie, possibly an entire franchise.  I guess with the success of Game of Thrones, this kind of story is hot right now.  And best yet, we have the special effect ability to make the dragons look fantastic.  Yippee!

    ETA:  I should start a new thread so we can dream cast our favorite characters.  I can't wait to see Moreta, she's my favorite.

    Whee, more Pern fans~!  Lookie, a Pern thread!
    Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern Series

    I had the list in post #1 all updated at one time, but Todd keeps writing new books, and I've fallen behind! Laugh

    There was a Dragonriders movie in the works at one time, but Anne was so unhappy with how they proposed doing it that she nixed the project... if I'm remembering correctly!  I could be mixing up my authors (maybe that was actually David Eddings... Hmm Hmm...  )  Well, either way, if it's true, I'm definitely going to have to see it!  Y'all feel free to start a topic about it; either in The Reading Room or in the Movies & Music area, whichever you prefer Big smile

    And yes, I won't tolerate nastiness here.  I want this to be a place for people to come and relax and have fun... and vent when needed!


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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by djrum on Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:39 pm

    Wow, those 4 posts are harsh.

    I believe a point can be made without hurting other people's feelings.

    I've often stated that I'm tired of the cute animal helpers. But I would never insult somebody else just because they like them.
    I've said that I think ERS games are too easy anymore. That's my opinion on their games. It doesn't mean I don't buy them...I refuse to buy the CEs.
    I certainly don't expect everyone to share the same opinion as me.

    And when I see reviews like that, I have a tendency to skim over them. I've looked for Justie's reviews, but I know she's busy being a Dragon keeper.
    So, I'll read what's posted & proceed to demo. I can usually tell if I like a game (or not) in the first 10 minutes of playing. Ah, well...sometimes I'll use the entire demo time & still can't make up my mind.
    Then, I'll wait for the SE & demo again. If a fantastic sale comes along, that might make my decision a bit easier.
    I wait for the weekend sales anyways or a Developer sale. Sometimes, Wednesday's sales are okay.

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by orphaned on Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:32 pm

    A present for genkicoll .....

    who also does the impossible 

    while making it look easy ... Half Flower 




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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by snapnhiss on Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:45 am

    djrum wrote:Wow, those 4 posts are harsh.

    I believe a point can be made without hurting other people's feelings.


    I've often stated that I'm tired of the cute animal helpers. But I would never insult somebody else just because they like them.
    I've said that I think ERS games are too easy anymore. That's my opinion on their games. It doesn't mean I don't buy them...I refuse to buy the CEs.
    I certainly don't expect everyone to share the same opinion as me.

    And when I see reviews like that, I have a tendency to skim over them. I've looked for Justie's reviews, but I know she's busy being a Dragon keeper.
    So, I'll read what's posted & proceed to demo. I can usually tell if I like a game (or not) in the first 10 minutes of playing. Ah, well...sometimes I'll use the entire demo time & still can't make up my mind.
    Then, I'll wait for the SE & demo again. If a fantastic sale comes along, that might make my decision a bit easier.
    I wait for the weekend sales anyways or a Developer sale. Sometimes, Wednesday's sales are okay.
    There are pages and pages of "reviews" like that, I don't understand why more people haven't called him out on it.  I saw a few but the usual supporters (groupies) showed up to defend him.  I just don't get it.

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by Esme on Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:17 am

    Sadly, this is all too common around there and one of the many reasons that when I was there I rarely left the D&E thread... and now that it's gone, so am I and I honestly haven't looked back since. I enjoy coming here and since I frequently have very different takes on the games, I sort of just buy what I want and don't buy what I don't want.


    For me it's become just that simple. 

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by luvtoread on Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:31 pm

    snapnhiss wrote:Aaah, I got banned for a week.  It was the post where I said Cathy Catfish was a nag.   Snicker 

    I'm a bad influence ladies, I hope I don't rub off on any of you.


    You are banned??   Belly laugh

    Here,  we will ease your pain     Drinking buddy

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by djrum on Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:21 pm

    snapnhiss, "He" (I think I know who you're referring to) is most likely a member of the so-called nonexistent clique that does exist over there.
    You can't go up against them...you'll always lose.

    As Esme said, we stayed in our own little D&E thread that jeanniemouse created, peacefully discussing games or whatever topic we chose (following the rules, of course).
    No drama whatsoever.

    I still go to BF everyday and check out the TGT, read reviews, and tech troubles. I rarely go back after the first day of reviews unless I'm worried about the tech issues. That's when I hit the reviews again.

    Since I'm not there, I don't read a lot of reviews. I did read where people were complaining about pink/purple colors and the use of portals in games.
    Hey, I'm happy if the game has a good storyline & no tech issues. I don't really care what colors are used or if portals are prominent, I'm very easy to please.
    Truthfully, I'm a HUGE fan of the dark & dreary, grungy graphics.

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by snapnhiss on Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:52 pm

    Thanks for the replies, I appreciate your input.

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    Post by luvtoread on Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:44 pm

    I very rarely go over to the forums,  but out of sheer curiosity I went over and checked out
    the new Puppetshow forum.

    Holy    Cow-moo , Batman!   First, I must admit,  all those  Removed By Moderator posts makes
    me think everyone has a potty mouth.    dirtywords 

    Then,   there is always one person bent out of shape because of what someone else said,
    that,  put in perspective,   really is not a big deal.    Instead of asking that person what
    they meant,   they go into a snit.

    I also had to laugh at some who said that the Puppet Show series should have stopped
    ages ago.       So true.

    Someone.. Whistle ... here said the same thing,   and now we have a  Cow-moo        Thank You


    All because the poster asked:  "Didn't this have a different name?"    Laugh

    As for the colors,  that is one of the reasons I find the Puppet Show so tiresome.
    Same colors,   same head with leg puppet running around.   Someone blast him
    and get it out of our misery.

    I remember the first time someone did not like what I said.    It was about
    a woman's weight in a certain game--she was an opera singer.
    I made some comment about men being clueless about their looks.

    One thought it was funny,     some guy commenter did not and took me to
    task.     Like I cared.   Mouse pbbt

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    Post by snapnhiss on Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:56 pm

    I didn't use any naughty words and some of my "removed by moderator" posts weren't insulting or aimed at anyone.  In one of them I said something like "so even though I don't like arcade games, it's acceptable and even encouraged to post negative reviews there.  I'll keep that in mind."

    I really don't get the point of "reviewing" a game that you know you're going to hate and posting the exact same comments that are insulting to the developer AND other members.  People are certainly free to trial in hopes that something's changed but it's clear by this point that he's wallowing in his own anger and disgust and won't ever enjoy an ERS game.  In fact, he hates probably 95% of the games he trials no matter who the dev is.  I honestly fail to see any humor in his comments, he just comes across as a cranky old fart that hates life.

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    Post by Esme on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:08 pm

    luvtoread wrote:
    Someone.. Whistle ... here said the same thing,   and now we have a  Cow-moo        Thank You

    Some people just need to learn to shut their mouths....  Belly laugh

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by luvtoread on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:29 pm

    Esme wrote:
    luvtoread wrote:
    Someone.. Whistle ... here said the same thing,   and now we have a  Cow-moo        Thank You

    Some people just need to learn to shut their mouths....  Belly laugh

    OH NO!!   NEVER!!! Big No No     Clap






    In one of them I said something like "so even though I don't like arcade games, it's acceptable and even encouraged to post negative reviews there.  I'll keep that in mind."


    Sounds good to me    Two thumbs up

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by djrum on Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:25 pm

    LMAO, Esme!! Belly laugh But look what we got... Cow-moo  Love it!!

    Oh yes, luvtoread, it was very bad in that forum. I'd read the posts before they were moderated and the thread was locked.

    The one good thing since CCC was closed...hardly no one posts about the D&E people (us) being possessed by the devil. Happy bounce

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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by genkicoll on Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:38 pm

    Yeah, right... We're "bad" and "devil-worshippers" because we like dark & eerie-themed games? Yeah right  I remember those posts.


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    Re: May I vent for a moment?

    Post by djrum on Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:53 pm

    Yep, I still catch an occasional post about "all the D&E games."  OH!

    Huh??? Well, I'd sure like to know where all the D&E games are. Because if I knew, my ass would be there buying them.  Huh?

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    Post by Esme on Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:03 pm

    That always cracked me up because I am SUCH a goodie-two-shoes in real life. To be painted as such a hooligan is hilarious to me. 

    Yup, me playing these games has made me such an evil creeper!  devilish grin

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    Post by djrum on Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:13 pm

    So true. You'd think we all ran around wearing black-hooded cloaks & mumbling some kind of devil summoning chant under our breath.

    I just happen to love D&E games. It's really no big deal. devilish grin

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